Timothy Green Berkley
talked about both vintage and recent UFO cases, as well as contact
incidents with alien-type beings. His publishing company has been
reintroducing 40-50 year-old UFO books to a new generation, with
introductions and updated material added by current writers (for
example:
Two Golden Age Flying Saucer Classics).
Regarding the classic George Adamski contactee case, in which he
claimed to meet and telepathically communicate with a tall,
blonde-haired Venusian stepping out of his ship, Beckley's friend, the
late Harold Sulken, who knew Adamski well, indicated that there was some
truth to his encounter, but a lot of Adamski's photos and films were
fabricated. Interestingly, Beckley suggested that the contactee movement
of the 50s helped to fuel interest in space travel.
He recalled a conversation he had with astronaut Gordon Cooper, who told
him that he'd been given a film that showed an aerial craft that
didn't appear to be built on Earth. But when Cooper gave the footage to
the Pentagon he never saw or heard about it again. Beckley conjectured
that alien intelligences or "ultraterrestrials" don't necessarily hail
from other planets, and could be here to help us along, or conversely
trying to trick us. Some of the phenomena related to aliens/UFOs is
visionary and fantastic, and while it might not point to the
extraterrestrial hypothesis, it could tell us something about our own
minds, he said. Beckley also touched on USOs (unidentified submersible
objects), and cited a Florida incident in which two men said their car
was sucked up by a UFO, and one of them was taken to an underwater
facility, where he could actually see through the clear walls of the
base.
In the latter half, unorthodox ufologist
Norio Hayakawa
discussed his research into the mysteries of Dulce, New Mexico, and
the UFO question. It's been alleged that there's an underground base in
Dulce that is jointly run by the US government and ETs. While no
physical evidence has emerged to prove that there's a base there, there
is circumstantial evidence that points to something there, he said. The
US government may have connections in that area, in terms of
experimentation, and disposal of waste from black budget projects, he
continued. On Dec. 10, 1967, the Atomic Energy Commission exploded a
nuclear device underground about 22 miles from Dulce (called
Project Gasbuggy), right next to the Jicarilla Apache Reservation. Radiation leaked out after the experiment and led to high rates of cancer and infertility in the Dulce area, he reported.
Hayakawa spoke of his friendship with the late
Gabe Valdez,
a retired New Mexico State Police officer who investigated cattle
mutilations. He believed there was a secret governmental facility on the
Dulce mesa, and that the govt. was perhaps staging UFO incidents with
holographic projections, as a diversion to cover actual activities like
biowarfare experimentation. Hayakawa said he's become more skeptical
about UFO photos after such heralded images as the 1957 Brazilian Navy
photo and the 1990 Belgian triangle image were declared to be hoaxes. He
expressed admiration for researchers John Keel and Jacques Vallee who
thought out of the box on the UFO issue, and concluded that rather than
coming from other planets, 'aliens' may be from another realm or
dimension that can intersect with ours.
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